johnnybravoboy
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Post by johnnybravoboy on Jul 14, 2013 19:00:55 GMT
Btw, wasn't Yu Suzuki apparently looking into Shenmue Town being re-released on smart phones? As soon as that game comes out - seeing as that game was originally intended as a means of relaunching the series - I shall be getting it.
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Post by Let's Get Sweaty! on Jul 14, 2013 19:06:48 GMT
I'm guessing that one's off the cards by now, but you never know.
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johnnybravoboy
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Post by johnnybravoboy on Jul 15, 2013 17:12:58 GMT
Hi Sweaty, I'm a bit confused on the licensing issues about Shenmue 3. Suppose that Suzuki one day says - god forbid - that he cannot be bothered with Shenmue 3 anymore and that he will not make it or he just retires, what would exactly happen to the Shenmue I.P.? Would that mean then that the I.P. would remain in Sega indefinitely until it is next picked up again, either by a future less apathetic Sega or by being bought by someone else if the company dies off? And if it does, without Suzuki in the picture would we still potentially be able to demand for Shenmue 3? Worst case scenario, I just wanted to ask.
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Post by Let's Get Sweaty! on Jul 15, 2013 17:35:37 GMT
I think it's as you described. The IP belongs to Sega, so whatever happens with it - or doesn't happen with it - is always going to be their decision until that ownership changes hands. If Yu gives up, then it will remain buried in their basement for as long as they want it to be.
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johnnybravoboy
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Post by johnnybravoboy on Jul 15, 2013 18:48:41 GMT
Ok, thanks. That clears up a few things for me.
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johnnybravoboy
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Post by johnnybravoboy on Jul 17, 2013 19:41:04 GMT
Hey Sweaty, I have just had a brilliant idea for our tweetathon and want to know your opinion. I have been looking through a lot of our tweets and couldn’t help but notice that Sega of Japan/SEGA_OFFICIAL is rarely mentioned – instead it is always Sega of America. I’m thinking because Shenmue is more up the street of Sega of Japan rather than America, and because Sega of Japan are not receiving as many tweets as compared to the ones directed to America, whether we could try out this idea that I just had which could boost the number of tweets sent to Sega of Japan and help equalise the bombardment more between the two places as opposed to the majority being directed to just one. What if we were to duplicate the on-going Shenmue thunderclap. This new thunderclap would contain the same message, same media and the same hashtag (in English), but the only difference shall be that the text would be translated into Japanese and tailor targeted to Sega of Japan instead of Sega of America which the English version would be already accommodating for. That way, we would not only be targeting Sega of America and all of the English speaking news outlets but also we would be expanding our social reach by bombarding Sega of Japan whilst also grabbing more and more attention from the Asian news outlets which in turn could ignite the beginnings of your Japanese governmental plan because the country would already start noticing us a bit more than they already are. What do you think? If we promote the thunderclap as usual but then provide two links on the Team Yu post on Facebook: one for Sega of America and one for Sega of Japan, every member would in effect be tweeting twice which would benefit the tweetathon by increasing the number of tweets sent, and we would be showing ourselves more to Sega of Japan than we are at the moment. Because it is difficult for people to tweet to Sega of Japan because they each need to translate their writing, it takes more initiative and people would subconsciously prefer to instead tweet Sega of America in their native tongue, but I am sure that Sega of Japan are getting a little bit more of a quiet reception to our twitter campaign – a thunderclap which 100 people can just sign up for which has a preloaded message translated for them would be a lot easier and with 100 participants equalling 200 tweets with a larger social reach we would in effect be killing two birds with one stone very easily. It would be a very simple and easy way to make future tweetathons larger than ever before, whilst getting the attention of both Sega HQs and more news media. Of course, I’m just throwing this out there. Anything to help out to the cause. I don’t know if you have considered this before?
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Post by Let's Get Sweaty! on Jul 17, 2013 20:58:34 GMT
It's not a bad idea but I'm very wary of overloading people, asking the casual fans to do too much. I see Thunderclap as something we're still fully establishing, so branching out into two versions might be pushing it a bit right now. That's not to say we can't do it in the future though. Or, we could just include a pre-translated Japanese message in the same Thunderclap's description text, which people could copy and paste if they wanted.
What we can't do, unfortunately, is include @usernames in the default message - Twitter won't allow Thunderclap to do that, as it would be spamming someone's account.
On the whole though, I don't think we need to worry about which Sega account people are @mentioning. I don't expect anything to happen when Sega's Twitter teams see these tweets. They'll just ignore them, whether they're in the US or Japan. We're not doing this to get the attention of their frontline community reps. We're trying to rally other gamers to our cause, get coverage from the gaming media, and get the hashtag trending. When those last two are happening on a regular basis, people higher up in Sega - on both sides of the Pacific - will have to take notice for the sake of their brand's reputation, because the dissatisfaction of their customers will be visible to those who matter most: other customers.
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johnnybravoboy
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Post by johnnybravoboy on Jul 18, 2013 13:02:43 GMT
I didn't know you couldn't @mention someone...its not really worth it then. Sticking to the English one sounds best but maybe in the future if anything could come up we could try for the Japanese. Already some Yakuza 5 fans are working with us on twitter so our message is getting the attention of the other customers as you say. I am also trying to promote the tweetathon as best I can now that uni is out the way so I'd be glad to help in anything you need doing.
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Post by Let's Get Sweaty! on Jul 18, 2013 16:43:59 GMT
That's what we need the most, is promotion. It's all very well making fancy websites, videos, Thunderclaps, etc, but it's all for nowt if they're just being seen by the same people all the time. Going out there and introducing new people to what we're doing is the most valuable way that anyone can contribute to the campaign.
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johnnybravoboy
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Post by johnnybravoboy on Jul 18, 2013 17:17:23 GMT
What I am actually trying to do now if you have noticed by my recent tweets is to get the attention of the console publishers on a Shenmue 3 exclusive while gaining a few followers from people, particularly who do work for Microsoft and Nintendo (unsure exactly what they do but it looks like I.t. work) - I'm hoping by putting myself out there that might be a fine way to promote the idea to new people and rub off some participation on them as well. By the way, on the 3rd I usually send one or two tweets but could I send more to get the hash tag trending? I read somewhere that apparently if I spam a hash tag on twitter continuously I could bugger up the chances of it trending for some reason...or is that untrue can I just go nuts with a few more?
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Post by Let's Get Sweaty! on Jul 18, 2013 17:35:22 GMT
I don't know whether that's true, but don't be afraid to post more than two or three if you've got more to say. However there's one guy who tweets the same thing literally 100 times - don't be that guy...
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johnnybravoboy
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Post by johnnybravoboy on Jul 19, 2013 21:50:11 GMT
Hi Sweaty, been really busy on Twitter lately; just wanted to check in on you about something. I have seen someone on Twitter send a tweet to Obama's twitter account saying how the PSP is struggling and if he'd be willing to RT. The re-tweets from people the guy got was colossal (I doubt Obama tweeted back though). This has got me thinking about Shenmue, do you think if I were to send a similar tweet...or would that be a bit too extreme/inappropriate do you think? If I get enough re-tweets and link Sega and console publishers for them to witness the conversation it might look impressive to all.
Also, on a separate point, do you think it is worthwhile to email console publishers and ask them to consider the possibility of a Shenmue exclusive?
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Post by Let's Get Sweaty! on Jul 19, 2013 21:56:29 GMT
I follow that guy, he's a parody account of the boss of Sony/Playstation. People retweeting it probably thought it was funny, like I did.
We'll be making some alterations to the Tweetathon soon which will make it easier to appeal to console makers and other publishers. Until then, I'm not sure how worthwhile one person's email will be, but it can't hurt if you really want to go that route.
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johnnybravoboy
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Post by johnnybravoboy on Jul 19, 2013 22:08:43 GMT
Haha, I didn't realise that was a parody.
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johnnybravoboy
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Post by johnnybravoboy on Jul 21, 2013 23:32:26 GMT
Managed to have a chat with Sega about Ryo Hazuki cosplay, which is cool considering they rarely reply to Shenmue fans. I guess I must have that special touch...
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johnnybravoboy
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Post by johnnybravoboy on Jul 30, 2013 16:45:51 GMT
I'm doing a charity fundraiser of my own this summer and I am using this particular website: www.bmycharity.com/ I was just thinking maybe if you are interested Shenmue fans could do a fundraiser of their own for charity - I think the Mass Effect 3 fans did this to get their DLC which they eventually got. It would look really impressive to Sega and gaming news in general when we say that while we are waiting for Shenmue 3 we are putting our money somewhere else seeing as Sega doesn't want it. We could probably fundraise for an orphanage perhaps seeing as there are a lot of orphans in Shenmue. If it is successful and we raise a couple of hundred or even thousand it would really look good on the Shenmue fan-base.
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Post by Let's Get Sweaty! on Jul 30, 2013 16:59:01 GMT
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johnnybravoboy
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Post by johnnybravoboy on Jul 30, 2013 17:13:49 GMT
Let me know when/how you are going to do it.
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Post by mue26 on Aug 5, 2013 0:40:14 GMT
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Post by Let's Get Sweaty! on Aug 5, 2013 5:09:41 GMT
I love how they talk about a vocal minority, yet the negative replies keep coming from the same little circle of armchair experts.
And the guy who's so in-the-know about Shenmue as to talk about Sega-branded capsule toys and arcade games - how many of those was he expecting to find in Guilin and the other remote locations expected to comprise Shenmue 3?
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