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Post by ShenmueAddict on Mar 9, 2011 9:57:27 GMT
lol i havent seen the movie yet but i want to, it looks pretty good. ashame it flopped
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Post by JoePesciAddict on Mar 10, 2011 7:21:06 GMT
It flopped because it is a terrible movie. The only redeeming quality is Joe Pesci.
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Post by baby beedle hitler on Mar 10, 2011 19:05:51 GMT
what did you think of the oscars?
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Post by GinfnersAddict on Mar 15, 2011 5:09:16 GMT
Why does it seem like everybody who plays a psychotic madman who takes glee from his misdeeds gets praised to high heaven for their performance in that role? Are the performances just that good or is it a character that's easy to look good playing? I'm sure I don't need to provide examples for a hunk such as yourself
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Post by JoePesciAddict on Mar 15, 2011 22:47:51 GMT
Why does it seem like everybody who plays a psychotic madman who takes glee from his misdeeds gets praised to high heaven for their performance in that role? Are the performances just that good or is it a character that's easy to look good playing? I'm sure I don't need to provide examples for a hunk such as yourself You don't need to provide examples. I think that people are obsessed with conflict, it's raw dissonance. People don't care for raw harmony (i.e. love scenes, compassionate characters, etc.). I don't know why but people can't stand things to work in perfect synergy. Those character archetypes you speak of boil over with conflict. They have conflict with themselves, others, anyone really. And that's what people care for. Also, in general it appears that they provide a counter image to how they're perceived outside of films in the media. All groomed and perfect and sane. We view performances through the prism of (media sometimes, sadly) other performances. Just as we view films through the prism of other films. We see Heath Ledger play a gay cowboy in one film, and a psychotic clown in another. We're bound to compare the roles. And not stop there, but give all the credit to the psycho role because it is pure conflict. what did you think of the oscars? I hate the Oscars. They're absolute bollocks. Fuckin political old farts who follow media and marketing instead of how good a film actually is. Even George Clooney said he had to go around promoting "Up In The Air" to boost its Oscar chances. Kissing babies and all that. "The King's Speech" is mediocre at best. It's just a literal representation of a story, there isn't much form or symbolism and I think that makes it really average. "Inception" winning best cinematography is sickening, almost as bad as "Avatar" winning last year. It's not good cinematography at all. It is basic technical skill that anyone can learn in film school. Shot-reverse-shot, shaky cam action scenes and hackneyed staging make everything in that movie look worse than it probably is. "God Of Love" winning for best short film was tits, though. Highlight of the night, that. Because it is a great short. I hate the Oscars though, let me make that clear, snakey board. ;D |
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Post by GinfnersAddict on Mar 16, 2011 4:42:12 GMT
"The King's Speech" is mediocre at best. It's just a literal representation of a story, there isn't much form or symbolism and I think that makes it really average.  What movies do you recommend? Any mega old stuff that we kids should check out? I actually downloaded Detour and Nosferatu ages ago but never got around to watching them due to watching Keaton stuff repeatedly instead. Have you seen them? Thoughts? |
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Post by JoePesciAddict on Mar 16, 2011 5:40:32 GMT
Well I'd suggest anything by Carl Theodor Dreyer. Specifically "The Passion of Joan of Arc", which is my favorite film of his and it is essentially close-ups, expressionist close-ups of a brilliant and singular performance from Maria Falconetti, and literally, it is her only film performance. She was a stage star. And it's funny, because it's debatable whether she performed at all. Every subtle facial expression she makes is said to be deliberate and meticulous craftsmanship from CTD. Also, of course Hitchcock and Orson Welles. Yasujiro Ozu over Akira Kurosawa. Ingmar Bergman, and specifically "Persona", which is the original "Fight Club" mind you. Michelangelo Antonioni and his masterpiece "La'Avventura". Federico Fellini, specifically "8 1/2". Anything by him really, because I can't forget "La Dolce Vita." And there are many more.
As for "Nosferatu" and "Detour"... well I've only seen the former. And I say it is definitely a must watch film.
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Post by baby beedle hitler on Mar 17, 2011 21:22:34 GMT
disagree re: kings speech. just cause there's no metaphor doesn't mean it's a bad film. it tried to tell a story and it did it well. saying that a film needs symbolism to be good is like saying a song needs lyrics to be good.
i don't think it was oscar worthy or amazing or anything though
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Post by JoePesciAddict on Mar 20, 2011 4:58:59 GMT
No, a film doesn't necessarily need symbolism to be good. But it always makes it better because it adds layers to a film, something to constantly go back and appreciate and interpret. Those films usually give us reason to come back to them and find new ways of looking at things. Also, attention to form is another big things for me. Why did a director choose to shoot a scene a certain way, why did he cut from one shot to another, so on and so forth. Form and story are inextricable. Form tells a story, story is form. There are tidbits of that but it feels essentially like an example of a post-modern crowd pleaser. For instance, I love the shots of the mic in focus, the camera stuttering about from the main character's subjective pov and the crowds below out-of-focus. It kind of puts a lump in your throat as the audience, screaming in your head, "fuckin say something you twat!". But really it is a good film, just not that good. I like films that innovate and experiment. A la "The Social Network's" 'networking' storytelling approach. Every ounce of detail in that film is wrought meticulously by the director and that should have won the Best Picture award because of how much attention to detail was made. Also, how idiosyncratic (i.e. directorial motifs and stylistic themes throughout the body of their work) the film is definitely will help decide my opinion. And "The King's Peach" didn't really have much going on to make it a standout film of 2010. While I thought "The Social Network" did. I will give you this though, it did tell the story well. And in my opinion it isn't ever what the story is, necessarily, rather it is how the story is told.
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Post by baby beedle hitler on Mar 21, 2011 2:02:31 GMT
I do agree, just to a different extent, haha
do you agree with me that superhero movies are a pile of shite
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Post by GinfnersAddict on Mar 21, 2011 2:06:55 GMT
And "The King's Peach" didn't really have much going on to make it a standout film of 2010.  Thoughts on Colin Firth? |
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Post by JoePesciAddict on Apr 4, 2011 7:04:59 GMT
I liked "Kick-Ass" and "Unbreakable." Come to think of it, there aren't many others... Maybe "Spiderman" 1 and 2. And possibly the new "X: Men" film, but only because it is directed by Matthew Vaughan. But yes, for the most part I think they're complete shit.
Colin Firth was the fucking man in "The King's Speech." He was really fucking good, deserved everything he got for that role. All of the humanity that he bared on screen was absolutely brilliant.
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Post by baby beedle hitler on Apr 6, 2011 19:40:43 GMT
I hated kickass... just awful. Best part of it was Nicholas cage which is saying something
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Post by JoePesciAddict on Jan 16, 2012 22:28:59 GMT
Lol. I liked it you cunt. Why didn't you like it?
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Post by Chris on Jan 17, 2012 4:34:56 GMT
I liked Kick Ass but only because I knew the comic was fucking ass in comparison.
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Post by baby beedle hitler on Jan 17, 2012 14:09:28 GMT
wasn't funny, just came across smug. never understood why that girl went out with him after he came out as straight, when I got that I got arrested
I wanna watch that Super thing though
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Post by GinfnersAddict on Jan 17, 2012 18:03:31 GMT
Why is Wallace Shawn such a god awful annoying shit?
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Post by JoePesciAddict on Jan 18, 2012 9:47:04 GMT
Why is Wallace Shawn such a god awful annoying shit? I have no idea who that is. wasn't funny, just came across smug. never understood why that girl went out with him after he came out as straight, when I got that I got arrested I wanna watch that Super thing though I can see how you'd feel that way. In the comic book, she fucking shuts him down and then messages him a picture of her sucking a black guy's dick. |
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Post by GinfnersAddict on Jan 18, 2012 18:49:22 GMT
Why is Wallace Shawn such a god awful annoying shit? I have no idea who that is. He's yer bloke that wasn't Andre in My Dinner With Andre and the kidnapper guy that wasnt Andre the Giant or Mandy Patacake in The Princess Bride. He constantly looks confused and so fucking smug about being confused. Also, I watched that film about you and your feud with Edward R. Murrow, Good Night, and Good Luck. Did you enjoy it? Did you feel it was too biased against you? Did it amuse you that in test screenings the audience thought the "actor playing" you was too over the top, despite it being stock footage of you yourself? Is that enough questions for one post? |
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Post by JoePesciAddict on Jan 20, 2012 0:26:52 GMT
That was very communistic to say.
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