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Post by mue26 on Feb 18, 2012 14:47:45 GMT
I doubt we will get much joy on their forum, though, to be honest. I've used it and I've tried the same thing. The problem is that they have had so much demand for Shenmue on their forum, that they went and created an all purpose Shenmue thread, in which all posts regarding Shenmue are to be posted, and also easily ignored. You could still try to create a new thread for this campaign, I suppose, and see what happens.
I do like how Shenmue UK has become the new hub for Shenmue campaign related activity, though! We should probably start posting in Sweaty's proper threat, as opposed to this ancient one.
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johnnybravoboy
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Post by johnnybravoboy on Feb 18, 2012 14:55:38 GMT
ok, I know i just saw the thread and updated it with a super long protest. so mue26, would you be interested in supporting teamyu and myself? probably we could aim for team yu thread like you said or instead cram their emails if the forum cant work.
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Post by mue26 on Feb 18, 2012 15:51:21 GMT
Yep, I'll help. I'll be a bit busy for the next few days, but after that I'll be happy to help if I can.
Remember, if you post in the Team Yu thread in the Shenmue news subforum, it's probably easier for everyone else to see.
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Post by Let's Get Sweaty! on Feb 18, 2012 17:01:24 GMT
Should the Team Yu thread perhaps be moved in here to the Shenmue III subforum? If I was a first time visitor to Shenmue UK, interested in what's going on with S3, I probably wouldn't head straight for the forum's news/introduction section where it's mostly stuff about the website and its members. Newcomers probably don't go in there until they've decided they're sticking around.
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Post by johnnybravoboy on Feb 18, 2012 18:09:01 GMT
We should alert the administrators on the news subforum of our plans, anyhow wherever our updates our of our campaign thread doesnt bother me. We just need more followers, so far its just three of us who are doing this and that would be enough to qualify as mere 'spam.' If we could get a group of say 7 committed people to join us and really commit to our project of raising awareness that would look better. So far there are two hot spots that we can target: the forums of sega and their emails. If you think of any more, feel free to include that in our aim. We should promote through a variety of mediums. I have made a video of me on my iPOD promoting the production of Shenmue 3 personally. If any more want to do it, I could edit and combine all our spoken testimonies together in one video and send all over the web to sega, YS NET and the sega forums. I have let others know on Twitter like I said I would and now its up to them if they want to help. But I am going to home in on the forums and sega's email inbox unsympathetically from now on. If you guys could brainstorm any more ways that we can get this done that would be most appreciated. my email address is jo.bravo360@hotmail.co.uk if you want to send me sum stuff. As for now, I have found two weakspots in sega's armour and I am going to bombarder that with as many protesting messages as I can. So far over the years we have done petitions and fan clubs, but that hasnt done much. If we make things personal, and home dozens of messages from abou 7 people or so every day whenever we are free from our commitments - school, uni, college, work etc then soon sega will have to do something. sitting around waiting isnt going to do anything because no one else is going to do the hard work for us to obtain the shenmue license. We need to hit it where its unprotected and sensitive and instead of making yet another petition, instead fire away at Sega's inbox and forums and any other things that you guys find worthwhile. For the next week coming Monday, I shall be back at college. I shall however regularly do something such as sending 3 or 4 emails to Sega and stacking up their twitter and forums with protests like a big subway footlonger sandwich before i go to bed every night once revision and essays done. Otherwise, you guys can arrange a rota for yourselves on a free available 5 minutes or so when you have access to a computer to make your ideas heard. And as I say, I shall be sending video protests too, so if you wana do same, I can combine it with my own and publish them collectively to You tube as one video and distribute it to Sega and YS NET over and over...to make fans sound more 'resounding'. By all means, if any idea of mine is bad let me know and if you have any ideas let me know too. J
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Post by mue26 on Feb 18, 2012 18:21:41 GMT
Well, it is good to finally see some enthusiastic people out here, who don't mind getting proactive! But I just don't know if merely bombarding their email and forum will really amount to much. I think we need to get creative in how we approach this problem. For example I really like how Sweaty is approaching it, he's got a unique angle and if this twitter thing comes together, it may be harder for Sega to ignore than a mere Junk mail list filled up with Shenmue requests. Thinking out side the box is always good, have you got any special skills you can somehow make use of? I think your videos are a cool idea, though.
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Post by Let's Get Sweaty! on Feb 18, 2012 19:29:07 GMT
I agree with mue that being proactive is essential for anything to happen. I'm not sure however that personally assaulting Sega by email can achieve anything. An email every now and then, sure, but repeated emails from the same person - or the same people, however many there are - will be too easy to ignore. They'll end up getting filtered into a spam folder and no one will ever know. The benefit of forums and Twitter and Facebook is that the message is public, so when you're addressing Sega in a post/tweet/status you're doing so in front of others and hopefully inspiring them to join in and follow suit. That way every new message serves a unique purpose as it could catch the eye of someone new, even though Sega's heard it all from you before. I hope to put a campaign video together as well, but I'm still a n00b with audio and video editing software so I can't even hazard a guess as to when it'll be finished. It looks awesome in my head... if only I could copy and paste that onto the computer.
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Post by johnnybravoboy on Feb 18, 2012 20:43:31 GMT
You know when you all mentioned the email issue I thought of all my own personal junk mail and thought..."ah" loool. Your right, so we should just stick to Twitter at the moment? I can kick sum ass on twitter all the time. What else? Are there any publicity sites we can go on? We could do a little bit of forum work as the forum is looked at for fan requests apparently. I think really then we need to persuade twitter Sega to voice our requests higher up in our favour and ask them to refer to their forums. We keep asking them. I've made my own protest video where I'm talking to camera about license and stuff, maybe you guys and others could email me sum similar recordings of yourselves and I put it all together and tweet to Sega and post to their forums and plead them to at least allow the "higher men" to have a look for our behalf as dedicated customers. I think at some point we could involve the japan fanbase if we all get successful at this to add a punch. Could we turn to media and publicity sites to talk about what were doing? (a bit far fetched I know) or maybe even later visit Sega itself casually? Ok that was a bit much...um, anyone wana lead a few ideas of their own. I'm willing to promote and support.
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Post by Let's Get Sweaty! on Feb 18, 2012 20:52:41 GMT
Spreading the word and gathering support through other websites and forums is definitely worth doing. I've done a little bit of that - obviously, as it's how I ended up here via mue26 - but I'm just not familiar with that many sites. If I had the time I'd put more effort into that kind of outreach and publicity.
I "DM'd" the Play editor on Twitter today enquiring about the possibility of a short article in a future issue of his magazine, promoting the idea of Suzuki obtaining the license and being funded by Sony for PS3 exclusivity, but he hasn't replied. I didn't expect him to, but figured there was no harm in asking after he got involved in the dispute with Sega last night.
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Post by johnnybravoboy on Feb 18, 2012 20:55:14 GMT
Brilliant mate. I will do similar. I think our war is with twitter Sega and forum Sega at the moment and any secular websites, publishers we come across will add a punch.
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Post by johnnybravoboy on Feb 18, 2012 20:56:11 GMT
Wars the name of the Play guy
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Post by mue26 on Feb 18, 2012 21:11:09 GMT
Spreading the word and gathering support through other websites and forums is definitely worth doing. I've done a little bit of that - obviously, as it's how I ended up here via mue26 - but I'm just not familiar with that many sites. If I had the time I'd put more effort into that kind of outreach and publicity. I "DM'd" the Play editor on Twitter today enquiring about the possibility of a short article in a future issue of his magazine, promoting the idea of Suzuki obtaining the license and being funded by Sony for PS3 exclusivity, but he hasn't replied. I didn't expect him to, but figured there was no harm in asking after he got involved in the dispute with Sega last night. Yeah, just spreading the word on any gaming forums you regularly visit. On the one's I use, I currently have the TeamYu info in my sig. It's not much, but it's a useful to spread awareness of the campaign to any Shenmue fans who might want to help, without being annoying. Twitter is also good, obviously, however if you have no followers (like me) it's a bit fruitless. but yeah, I think the thing to do is slowly build up momentum. Because there are a lot of Shenmue fans out there but I think a lot of them have just given up hope, so we need to try and inspire that again. Remember when that capsule toy campaign took place? That even got exposure from the gaming press. But currently, such a large a scale campaign could never take place, because so many have just given up or moved on
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Post by Let's Get Sweaty! on Feb 18, 2012 21:19:31 GMT
Wars the name of the Play guy Ryan, but let's not pester him. I don't even know about this capsule toy campaign, what was that?
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Post by johnnybravoboy on Feb 18, 2012 21:21:01 GMT
I say now we hold back no punches. Sega find us annoying anyway... Always have. We got nuthin to lose in terms of reputation. I just say we keep on and on, involve other gaming societies, ask them to publish our campaigns eg team Yu and 500k. But most importantly as well we make it our aim in our reordering to make our cries be forewarded up to the respective people. We request request request and force our opinions to the top. btw mue wats ur twitter name
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Post by johnnybravoboy on Feb 18, 2012 21:24:52 GMT
As I say lemme know if u wana give me a clip of u asking Shenmue license to be given to Yu.... If I could get about 20 people and combine it all into one clip that would show "resounding support" and I would then pummel every forum, page and community with the video. It will have more impact as well than just a letter or so
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Post by mue26 on Feb 18, 2012 22:50:13 GMT
Wars the name of the Play guy Ryan, but let's not pester him. I don't even know about this capsule toy campaign, what was that? Loads of Shenmue fans participated in a mass mailing of toy capsules (like the one's in the game) to Sega's HQ in Japan. The capsules had requests for Shenmue written in them.
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Post by Let's Get Sweaty! on Feb 18, 2012 23:05:06 GMT
That sounds amazing. And heartwarmingly sweet as well. If that didn't appeal to Sega's Japanese sensibilities then it just goes to show what a waste of time it is for people to continue begging them to make the game themselves. Releasing the license to Yu Suzuki is the only option worth pursuing, and clearly has been for some time.
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Post by mue26 on Feb 18, 2012 23:13:22 GMT
That may be true, but I have a feeling that Sega will always try and keep one of it's fingers in the pie of a new Shenmue game. Add to the fact that Yu Suzuki does actually still hold some kind of advisery position in Sega. It's hard to say whether Yu intends to totally buy the licence off Sega or just kind do what he kind of did with Gai, whereby his team developed it but Sega still acted as some sort of publisher. What's your opinion?
But yeah that campaign was a good one, in fact I think there was loads of creative campaigns going on back then, but they all got ignored unfortunately.
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Post by johnnybravoboy on Feb 18, 2012 23:31:28 GMT
Guys I have an idea. If something like that made news we do it again but this time to Yu Suzuki's company YS NET. Sega won't care if we sent it to them but Suzuki is confident he can obtain the ip from Sega, he has worked with them for years and I doubt Shenmue a cursed project and Sega is a bunch of evil bad guys. I reckon that if we instead try the reverse and send toy capsules to Suzuki-San and seeing he alone is still making Shenmue titles like Shenmue Gai (even tho Sega is behind with their finger in the pie) I feel because Suzuki created it it would be more personal for Suzuki to experience and this time not Sega. Then because Suzuki is friends with his co-workers back in Sega I'm sure they wouldn't mind handing the ip over once weve warmed Suzuki-San up and taken sum press coverage, as long as they have a finger in the pie. But at least Suzuki will be the one making it.
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Post by Let's Get Sweaty! on Feb 18, 2012 23:49:35 GMT
It's hard to say whether Yu intends to totally buy the licence off Sega or just kind do what he kind of did with Gai, whereby his team developed it but Sega still acted as some sort of publisher. What's your opinion? I'll ask him next time we squad up on Call of Duty.
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